The SwimSwam Podcast

Is the College Swimming League the Future? Kyle Sockwell Answers the Hard Questions

Kyle Sockwell has long branded himself as the “CEO of Fun,” but anyone who has worked with him behind the scenes knows that label only tells half the story. Sockwell, now the COO of the newly announced College Swimming League (CSL), has built a reputation in aquatic sports for something that’s surprisingly rare in this industry: clarity. Behind the scenes, he’s direct about what he knows and what he doesn’t. Clear about what’s possible and what isn’t. And refreshingly uninterested in spin or “gotcha” communication. That matters when the topic is a massive structural shifts in college swimming. The CSL announcement dropped December 9th and immediately became one of the most discussed developments in our sport. The league named former International Swimming League (ISL) Toronto Titans GM Rob Kent as CEO, with Sockwell operating alongside him as COO. In this GMM podcast, we briefly cover Kyle's start and evolution in sports media, and then we dig into the details surrounding CSL

How Matt Bowe Is Chasing His Brand of Success as First Time Head Coach at Michigan

Head Coach Matt Bowe is in his 3rd year at Michigan, and the results are starting to show. Recently, at the CSCAA Dual Meet Tournament, the UM women placed 2nd and the men were 3rd (out of 4 teams), both breaking school records. Both teams not only won very close matchups that came down to the last relay (women vs Tennessee and men vs Virginia), but the women also handed the Virginia women a rare loss in the 200 medley relay. Bowe came on the SwimSwam podcast to discuss how he has been building culture since arriving in Ann Arbor and what navigating the NCAA landscape has looked like in a post-House settlement world.

CEO Kevin Ring Gets Real About State of USA Swimming, How We Will Move Forward

SwimSwam's Editor-in-Chief, Braden Keith, sat down with the new CEO of USA Swimming, Kevin Ring, for a candid conversation. Keith asked Ring 10 hard questions about the state of USA Swimming and what he will do to address those issues. Ring answered honestly and with some breaking news peppered in. This includes raising APA rates (athlete salaries) for the first time in over a decade and holding an SCM meet to help select rosters for SCM World Championships.

US Open, Short Course Euros, and Minn Invite Previews | SWIMSWAM BREAKDOWN

Today on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we are previewing the US Open, Short Course European Championships, and the Minnesota Invite.

Nate Germonprez Didn't Train Breaststroke At All Until Last Year

As a Freshman at Texas, Nate Germonprez was training freestyle and backstroke, focusing on IM but also swimming on the 800 free relay. Flash forward year and a half later, and Germonprez is the #4 performer in history in the 100 breast, only .2 off the NCAA and US Open records. Listen to the junior at Texas as he explains what has changed about his training since the arrival of Bob Bowman and how he has capitalized on his breaststroke ability.

Will Modglin on 20.00/43.26 50/100 Back, Not Training Breaststroke & Giant Leap This Summer

Will Modglin made a statement last weekend at the Texas Hall of Fame Invite. In his first swim, the 50 back leading off the 200 medley relay, he swam 20.00, the fastest 50y back in history. He went onto swim a 43.26 in the 100 back, breaking the American record and coming within .06 of his teammate, Hubi Kos's, NCAA record. Modglin also swam a 50.91 100 Breast, one of four loghorns who broke the 51-second barrier in the event. The funny thing about that: Modglin doesn't train breaststroke. At all. The WUG's gold medalist from this summer gets into this and more in today's episode.

Rylee Erisman to Cal (2026), Derivaux to Texas, & Mid-Season Roundup | SWIMSWAM BREAKDOWN

Today on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss Rylee Erisman reclassifying to 2026 and going to Cal, Audrey Derivaux to Texas, and recap the first week of Mid-Season Meet pandamonium.

NCAA Mid-Season Week Preview | SWIMSWAM BREAKDOWN

Today on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we preview the major Mid-Season Meets coming up this week in the NCAA.

Cal's Noah Yanchulis Finding His Coaching Rhythm as Bears Rebuild with 20-Deep Freshman Class

Entering his 3rd season with the California Golden Bears, Noah Yanchulis has already experienced many highs of coaching a college team. He's been a part of a conference champion team, chased an NCAA team title, and been a part of a Team USA coaching staff. We spoke with Yanchulis today about his time with the bears and how he's developed his system for coaching the 400 IM/distance groups, which now has up to 24 athletes on any given day, with the massive addition of 20 freshmen (men and women) this fall. This past summer, after Cal put 5 athletes on the world championship roster, Yanchulis was named an assistant coach on Team USA. He discusses the lessons learned coaching overseas in Thailand and Singapore as he helped guide the Red, White, and Blue through sickness during the championships.

Ryan Coughenour on Making 5-Figures Re-selling Shoes, Lessons Learned from Swimmer Grandpa

Ryan Coughenour has had a full journey leading into his senior year of high school. His grandfather was an Oklahoma state champion in the 1940s and went on to swim at Kansas State University (when they had a swim program) as well as compete at the US Olympic Trials in the 1950s. He has supported Ryan through his swimming career and encouraged him to pursue it in college. During the pandemic, when Ryan was in middle school and just starting to swim seriously, he started buying sneakers online and re-selling them for profit. Well, not for profit at first. But eventually, he learned how to make a profit and ended up making quite an income. Coughenour even convinced his coach to let him out in the middle of practice one day in order to secure a pair of valuable shoes, which he ended up re-selling for a profit of $1,100. Bow in his senior year, Ryan has committed to swim at Florida State. He's coming off a summer that saw him rapidly improve in LCM, going best times nearly every time he dove in the pool and capping his season at Summer JRs. Learning to be a leader on his high school and club team, the breaststroke specialist has a lot to look forward to.