
In the SwimSwam Podcast dive deeper into the sport you love with insider conversations about swimming. Hosted by Coleman Hodges and Gold Medal Mel Stewart, SwimSwam welcomes both the biggest names in swimming that you already know, and rising stars that you need to get to know, as we break down the past, present, and future of aquatic sports.
Episodes

Thursday Feb 03, 2022
World Champ Alia Atkinson Shares Memories, Mishaps, & More From 20+ Year Career
Thursday Feb 03, 2022
Thursday Feb 03, 2022
Alia Atkinson is a 5x Olympian, 4x world champion, and current world record-holder. She was a dominant breaststroke throughout the entire 2010s decade and made her mark in the world cup circuit, ISL, and on the world stage. Alia recently announced her retirement after the 2021 Short Course World Championships and sat down with SwimSwam to discuss her career, including ups, downs, and inbetweens.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Wednesday Feb 02, 2022
Zach Apple Unpacks His Olympic 4x200 and How He Came Back in The 4x100 Medley
Wednesday Feb 02, 2022
Wednesday Feb 02, 2022
3-time World Champion, 2-time Olympic Champion and Team Speedo Athlete, Zach Apple, gets raw and real about his 2020 Olympic performance. Zach let’s us inside his head, inside the highs and lows of his Olympic roller coaster experience.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Monday Jan 31, 2022
SwimSwam Breakdown: ISL Season 4, Post Grads Moving, & Peaty 200 Breast
Monday Jan 31, 2022
Monday Jan 31, 2022
This week on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss the ISL announcing a massive Season 4 schedule, post grads having success with other programs, and Adam Peaty taking on the 200 breast.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Monday Jan 31, 2022
Ryan Held Opens Up About Olympic Trials Disappointment, Training at ASU
Monday Jan 31, 2022
Monday Jan 31, 2022
We sat down with Ryan Held, who is hot off of a 6-medal performance at the 2021 World SC Championships, including 2 relay golds and 2 individual silvers in the 50/100 free. Held takes us through his last 6 months, starting at the lead-up to the 2021 Olympic Trials, when he was training with just Coley Stickels and Ali Khalafalla out of a pool in Birmingham and lifting in Stickels' basement. Held goes through the disappointment of placing 6th at Trials but then finding out he wouldn't be taken to Tokyo and processing that for the months to follow.
Held then gets into his move to Phoenix and new training home at Arizona State with Herbie Behm. Held likes the new training environment with the hungry college students as well as the small pro group made up of himself, Olivia Smoliga, and Hali Flickinger. Held also gives his thoughts on the "All-Ryan Relay" and how he thinks USA Swimming should handle the postponement of the 2022 World Championships.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Friday Jan 28, 2022
Shaine Casas Openly Discusses Choice to Go Pro, Train with Eddie Reese
Friday Jan 28, 2022
Friday Jan 28, 2022
Shaine Casas is a 6x world championship medalist and 3x NCAA champion. His decision to leave his alma mater of Texas A&M to train with their rival Longhorns in Austin has turned quite a few heads, but today Casas sets the record straight. He takes us into his head through the whole process of trying to transfer and ultimately going pro. Few swimmers choose to put their degree on hold to focus on their athletic career, but we see it frequently in other sports. Casas says he wants to prioritize his swimming now and describes his new training environment at the University of Texas with Eddie Reese.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Thursday Jan 27, 2022
Rhyan White on Going From 4th at The Olympics (Twice) to Winning a World Title
Thursday Jan 27, 2022
Thursday Jan 27, 2022
Rhyan White is a world champion, Olympic medalist, and NCAA All-American. She was the only woman from America to qualify for the 2021 Olympic Games in both the 100 and 200 backstroke. In Tokyo, she finished 4th in both events, just missing individual medals but still helping the USA to a silver in the 400 medley relay. White discusses managing her emotions through Trials, the Games, and afterword when she came back to Alabama to kick off her senior season. She talks about the new coaching staff in Tuscaloosa, led by first-time head coach Margo Geer, and the training habits she's developed since her first Games. White bounced back in a big way after Tokyo, winning gold in the 200 back at the Short Course World Championships in Abu Dhabi this past December.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Wednesday Jan 26, 2022
JOLYN CEO Mondy Herndon Explains The Upcoming Swim Collegiate Series
Wednesday Jan 26, 2022
Wednesday Jan 26, 2022
In this podcast, we learn more about Mondy, the Jolyn brand, and Jolyn’s on-going support of the sport. This year they launch the Jolyn Swim Collegiate Series. This series is not for the top 5-10% of swimmers that are recruited on “national times” alone. This series focuses on the 90-95% of youth swimmers that don’t have those top national event times. The Swim Collegiate Series serves as a “recruiting pipeline” for the coaches allowing them to spot talent 2-3 years down the road.
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Monday Jan 24, 2022
SwimSwam Breakdown: World Champs Postponed, Ledecky Beats Grothe, Walsh AM-R
Monday Jan 24, 2022
Monday Jan 24, 2022
This week on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss the 2022 World Champs getting postponed, Katie Ledecky beating Zane Grothe in an exhibition 500 free, and Gretchen Walsh setting a new American record in the 50 yard backstroke.
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Monday Jan 24, 2022
How Teen Sprint Sensation Josh Liendo Prepped to Become a World Champion
Monday Jan 24, 2022
Monday Jan 24, 2022
Josh Liendo was an Olympian at 18 and now at 19 is a world champion. He not only won gold as a part of the mixed 4x50 free relay in Abu Dhabi, but also earned double individual bronze in the 50 & 100 free. Liendo discusses growing up in Trinidad, moving to Canada as a teen, and becoming invested in swimming by chasing age group records.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Sunday Jan 23, 2022
Howard Swim Coach Askew Explains USA Swimming’s HBCU Million-Dollar Grant
Sunday Jan 23, 2022
Sunday Jan 23, 2022
USA Swimming has had a challenge to overcome for generations. Our sport’s registration does not reflect the current makeup of the United States. Only 1% identify as black, and only 6% identify as mixed-race. For USA Swimming to continue to grow and be successful as an National Governing Body, they must invest in big ideas, moonshot ideas, to chart a successful course into the future. Since 2004 the USA Swimming Foundation has supported their partners with free and reduced cost swimming lessons nationwide. December 14th 2021 they announced their grant program focused on creating a 10-year, $1 million initiative to develop learn-to-swim and competitive opportunities in communities served by Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs).
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Music: Otis McDonald
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