
In the SwimSwam Podcast dive deeper into the sport you love with insider conversations about swimming. Hosted by Coleman Hodges and Gold Medal Mel Stewart, SwimSwam welcomes both the biggest names in swimming that you already know, and rising stars that you need to get to know, as we break down the past, present, and future of aquatic sports.
Episodes

Tuesday Dec 14, 2021
SwimSwam Breakdown: Winter Jrs, SC World Champ Preview, & Sjostrom in the NCAA
Tuesday Dec 14, 2021
Tuesday Dec 14, 2021
This week on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discussed the 2021 Speedo Winter Junior Championships, the upcoming Short Course World Championships, and the prospect of Sarah Sjostrom being an NCAA swimmer.
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Monday Dec 13, 2021
Brent Nowicki Details His Journey So Far As FINA’s Chief Executive
Monday Dec 13, 2021
Monday Dec 13, 2021
Brent Nowicki’s been the new FINA Executive Director about six months. He’s young, only 42 years old, with an impressive resume. As expected he’s bringing a lot of energy and changes to FINA. Brent’s managing an extremely jam-packed calendar, and it appears he’s striving to package tentpole aquatic events as spectacles. The upcoming World Championships in Abu Dhabi will provided much needed data to determine if spectacle events can work—be a cost-benefit and be bigger driver of TV rights. Brent’s transparent on this topic. SwimSwam will touchback with him to learn more about these results.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Friday Dec 10, 2021
Friday Dec 10, 2021
We sat down with Kelsi Dahlia, the Cali Condor's star who broke the world record in the 100 fly in the ISL final. Dahlia explains the pain of missing the Olympic team, how she processed that sense of loss, and came back to pool with a sense of purpose to get ready for the 2021 ISL season. Dahlia also talks about her current training plan, which has included 6 practices a week (1 per day 6 days/week, no doubles) in the Louisville sprint group.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Thursday Dec 09, 2021
Penn‘s Lia Thomas Opens Up On Journey, Transition To Women‘s Swimming
Thursday Dec 09, 2021
Thursday Dec 09, 2021
University of Pennsylvania senior Lia Thomas has been making headlines so far in this NCAA season, producing several record-breaking performances in what is her first year competing as a woman.
Thomas, a trans woman, sat down on the SwimSwam Podcast to discuss everything from when she realized she was trans, what the transition period was like, and how she's been able to adjust to life both in and out of the pool.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Tuesday Dec 07, 2021
Coach Mark Schubert Details His New Elite Training Group at Saddleback El Toro
Tuesday Dec 07, 2021
Tuesday Dec 07, 2021
In this podcast Mark unpacks what he's doing at SET Aquatics, and he dips back into his history discussing his coaching philosophy. I traveled the world with Mark for ten years on the USA Swimming National Team back in the 1980s and 90s, but I've never talked to him about his Mission Viego dynasty years. I was dumbfounded to learned he took over the program at the tender age of 23 back in 1973. Mark discusses his genesis story, nearly going into the legal profession, and how his father told him he'd never make a living as a swim coach.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Tuesday Dec 07, 2021
SwimSwam Breakdown: ISL Final DQ, Heilman NAGs & Daiya in Scottsdale
Tuesday Dec 07, 2021
Tuesday Dec 07, 2021
This week on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss the ISL Final and the controversy that surrounded it, Thomas Heilman's NAG record siege in Greensboro, and Daiya Seto training in Scottsdale.
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Sunday Dec 05, 2021
Blaire Bachman Discusses Virginia Fall Training, Being a Head Coach at 24
Sunday Dec 05, 2021
Sunday Dec 05, 2021
We sat down with Blaire Bachman, the associate head coach at the University of Virginia. Bachman takes us through her thoughts on the hoos’ performances at the 2021 Tennessee invite, their mid-season rest meet, as well as how training has been for the defending national champions (on the women’s side) this fall. We then delve into Blaire’s coaching journey and she gives us key insights on what she’s picked up over the course of her 10+ year career so far.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Sunday Dec 05, 2021
Lezak, Dahlia, Ress Break Cali‘s Down Gut-Wrenching Loss in ISL Final
Sunday Dec 05, 2021
Sunday Dec 05, 2021
Condor's GM Jason Lezak along with World record-holder Kelsi Dahlia and American record-holder Justin Ress sat down with SwimSwam to digest the ISL final. Cali was the defending champions from 2020 and came up just short of their 2nd team title, losing to Energy Standard in a back-and-fourth match by just 12 points.
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Saturday Dec 04, 2021
Sarah Sjostrom, James Gibson Discuss Last-Minute Tactics to Reclaim ISL Trophy
Saturday Dec 04, 2021
Saturday Dec 04, 2021
In a razor-thin battle with the Cali Condors that saw the clubs trade the lead back and forth during the final day of competition, Energy Standard clinched the Season 3 ISL championship title thanks to the efforts of Ben Proud and Adam Barrett in the men’s butterfly skins. Energy Standard’s Sarah Sjostrom finished as the leading scorer in the final with 61 points, followed closely by Fink (59.5) and Cali’s Hali Flickinger (51.0).
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Thursday Dec 02, 2021
Olympic Medalist Hali Flickinger Intimately Details The Past Two-Year Grind
Thursday Dec 02, 2021
Thursday Dec 02, 2021
We sat down with two-time Olympic medalist and Team Speedo athlete Hali Flickinger. This Cali Condors swim star has been busy since Tokyo. In this podcast Hali dives into the past, detailing her journey to the Olympic podium since her days competing at YMCA Nationals. Hali's a workhorse, grinding in practice to compete on the biggest stage in sport in the 200 butterfly and 400 IM. The move to train under iconic swim coach Bob Bowman paid off, but she did not expect to train through a pandemic on her road to the Olympic Games. Hali gets raw and real in this interview explaining the ups and downs, and how she managed her mental health. Her Speedo MAKE WAVES moment includes her mental health management. She leaned into her swim-family, her Olympic teammates, a special crew that assembled nightly during the Games. Listen for the name of this unique group of elite women. You'll appreciate the power of this sisterhood.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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