
In the SwimSwam Podcast dive deeper into the sport you love with insider conversations about swimming. Hosted by Coleman Hodges and Gold Medal Mel Stewart, SwimSwam welcomes both the biggest names in swimming that you already know, and rising stars that you need to get to know, as we break down the past, present, and future of aquatic sports.
Episodes

Thursday Apr 22, 2021
British Swimming CEO Jack Buckner Managing the Olympic Effort Through COVID
Thursday Apr 22, 2021
Thursday Apr 22, 2021
British Swimming's CEO, Jack Buckner, dropped in on the SwimSwam Podcast to discuss the successes and challenges he has had to face on the run-up to this summer's Olympic Games.
This interview was my first conversation with Jack. He's very likable, no-nonsense, and comfortable in his own skin--like a chief executive with experience and a world-class athletic background, which he has.
Jack was not a swimmer, but he does swim for fitness. Back in the 1980s and early 1990s Jack was an athletics star (track and field for our U.S. readers). He earned 5k gold at the 1986 European Championships and bronze at the 1987 World Championships. He went on to represent the U.K at the 1988 and 1992 Olympic Games. See his athletics bio here.
Jack took the reins of British Swimming back in May 2017, inheriting a powerhouse. British Swimming is, arguably, at the top of their game with a long list of stars. Aside from global star and Olympic champion Adam Peaty, Duncan Scott and rapidly rising star Tom Dean are the topic of conversation for many swim fans right now. Scott and Tom will be leading Team U.K.'s 4x200 freestyle relay into the Summer Games as the clear favorites.
Jack covers a lot of topics, and he'll be back in the future. If you have questions for future pods, share in the comments.
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Thursday Apr 22, 2021
Day In The Life of NBC Sports Voice of Swimming Rowdy Gaines At The Olympics
Thursday Apr 22, 2021
Thursday Apr 22, 2021
Three-time Olympic Champion and NBC Sports Voice of Swimming, Rowdy Gaines, has the dream job. Who wouldn't want a front-row-center seat at the Olympic Games? The 2021 Olympic Games (and the U.S. Olympic Trials) will mark Rowdy's 8th turn in the chair.
What I want to know is what's it really like? I have an idea. I've subbed for Rowdy before, but only for small competitions. I know it's intense, days starting at 5am and ending, sometimes, after midnight. Thankful, ahead of the Olympic Games in Tokyo, Rowdy shares some details in this SwimSwam Podcast.
Rowdy also addresses the elephant in the room. Rowdy is well aware his commentary is not for us, the Swim Nerds. Rowdy's working for NBC. He's under direct instructions to call the races for the non-swimming audience, that fan that drops in once every four years. "I have to have a moment where I explain the backstroke flags," Rowdy laughed. "I do it on every Olympic telecast."
Rowdy, of course, loves the television gig and he shares a lot of insights:
- his day-in-the-life from the Rio Olympics
- how he goes to the bathroom during live telecasts
- a few funny mistakes over the years
- when he's gotten the giggles during live telecasts
- how he tries to manage four people talking in his ear while he's commentating
- and he shares his thoughts on how COVID will impact the Olympics
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Thursday Apr 22, 2021
Lydia Jacoby on Being an Olympic Contender as a High Schooler
Thursday Apr 22, 2021
Thursday Apr 22, 2021
We sat down with Lydia Jacoby, the 16-year-old who made headlines at the Pro Swim in Mission Viejo by becoming the #3 all-time US 17-18 in the 100 breast (1:06.38). We discussed her ascension to becoming an Olympic contender, something she's certainly thought of but isn't putting pressure on herself about. Jacoby also discusses life as a swimmer (and human) in Seward, Alaska where she lives and how that has helped build her championship mindset.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Wednesday Apr 21, 2021
Chris Ritter, Founder of RITTER Sports Performance & Creator of SURGE Strength
Wednesday Apr 21, 2021
Wednesday Apr 21, 2021
Chris Ritter, the founder and CEO of RITTER Sports Performance and creator of SURGE Strength , drops in on the SwimSwam Podcast with Gold Medal Mel Stewart.
The importance of having a repeat-able and adaptable process for your dryland training has never been realized more than this past year. Chris sat down with us to announce he is hosting a FREE upcoming webinar on The Process of Dryland Training. Join with other coaches and swimmers who are committed to better results in their dryland training.
- FREE Registration for The Process of Dryland Training Webinar - http://theprocessofdryland.training
- SURGE Strength – https://www.surgestrength.com
- Learn More about Becoming SSDC – https://www.surgestrength.com/certification
- SwimSwam Articles by Chris – https://swimswam.com/training/surge-strength-dryland-training
- SURGE Strength Podcast – https://wavve.link/rittersp?__s=x0dcybu65xrgfh0qi1st
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Wednesday Apr 21, 2021
Why is Dave Salo an Assistant Coach at Orange Coast College?
Wednesday Apr 21, 2021
Wednesday Apr 21, 2021
We sat down with legendary coach Dave Salo, who recently announced that he would be dawning the role of assistant coach at Orange Coast College. Salo explains that after so long of being a head coach, he's excited to coach without all of the extra worries that come with heading a Power-5 Division I program. He also gets into the nitty-gritty of how he runs workouts, if he's a "player's coach", and what he's looking forward to at Orange Coast.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Tuesday Apr 20, 2021
Claire Curzan Breaks Down Going 56.20 100m Fly
Tuesday Apr 20, 2021
Tuesday Apr 20, 2021
We sat down with Claire Curzan, the 16-year-old swimmer for the TAC Titans who turned heads when she dropped a 56.20 100m fly 2 weekends ago in Cary, North Carolina. Swimming fans had already been looking forward to this meet, as Curzan and fellow age-group star Torri Huske were slated to race in the 50/100 free and 100 fly. Huske ended up taking the 50 and 100 free races, while Curzan won the 100 fly, becoming the #2 American performer in history with her swim. Curzan admits that her goal in the race was to come home in under 30, which she did (29.99), and therefore didn't even know her final time until her teammate told her in the warm down pool.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Monday Apr 19, 2021
Andrei Minakov on Making his First Olympic Team
Monday Apr 19, 2021
Monday Apr 19, 2021
We sat down with Andrei Minakov, the Russian sprinting sensation who just qualified for his first Olympic games in both the 100 free and 100 fly. Minakov takes us through the Russian Trials as well as how he's adjusted to studying at Stanford (remotely from Russia). We also get into some throwback memories for Andrei, including the 2018 Youth Olympic Games (where he won 5 gold medals) and the 2019 World Championships (2 silver, 1 bronze).
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Sunday Apr 18, 2021
Brent Hayden Gives Perspective on International Swimmers' Alliance
Sunday Apr 18, 2021
Sunday Apr 18, 2021
We sat down with Brent Hayden, the Canadian Olympic medalist who is now on the athlete board of the International Swimmers' Alliance. Hayden discusses what it's been like to cooperate with a group of athletes like this and what he thinks they can accomplish for swimmers everywhere moving forward. Hayden emphasizes that he wanted to be a part of this as a way to give back to the sport that has already given him so much. He's looking to make changes not necessarily to this generation, but the generations in swimming to come.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Saturday Apr 17, 2021
Velimir Stjepanovic on Swimming Without Pressure
Saturday Apr 17, 2021
Saturday Apr 17, 2021
We sat down with Velimir Stjepanovic, a 2x Serbian Olympian and member of the DC Trident in the ISL. We talked about a wide range of topics, from Velimir's upbringing in life and swimming to his last year navigating through the COVID-19 pandemic. One topic we covered was swimming without pressure, which Velimir explained was the case as a member of the DC Trident. Knowing that the team was not a contender for the ISL title, Velimir was able to swim freely during the matches in Budapest, resulting in best times.
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Music: Otis McDonald
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Friday Apr 16, 2021
Torri Huske on Training with Sox, Chutes, & Racks Before Curzan LCM Showdown
Friday Apr 16, 2021
Friday Apr 16, 2021
We sat down with Torri Huske who went a slue of best time at the TAC Titans LCM Premiere meet this past weekend. Huske Battled Claire Curzan head-to-head in the 50 free, 100 free, and 100 fly, where she took wins in the 50 (24.44, new 17-18 NAG) and 100 free (53.40). She also went a huge PB in the 100 fly (56.69, new 17-18 NAG) and 200 fly (2:09.97). Huske discussed that just a couple weeks before this meet, she had started using drag sox, parachutes, and weight racks in her training, which she said she enjoyed but did make her a bit sore heading into the meet.
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